Info:Carb Jetting

Info:Carb Jetting


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(from www.yellowdogracing.com)

So your interested in jetting, eh? Sit back and I'll tell you how to go about doing it.

Let's start with the basics, and learn how to change a Main Jet. It's very easy to do.
You need a 17mm wrench and a 6mm wrench or a screw driver with bits that you can change.
Loosen the carb in the clamps, rotate the carb so you can see the large nut on the bottom of the float bowl. Use the 17mm wrench to remove the nut (right tight, left loose) and under this nut, you'll see the main jet. Take the bit out of the screwdriver, slip the screw driver over the jet and unscrew it (counter clockwise). You now have the main jet out. Easy, huh? When you put it back in DO NOT over tighten it. Just snug it - no macho man crap, just snug.

On the side or on the bottom of the jet you'll find a very small number inscribed in it. This is the jet size. The larger the number, the larger the jet. The more fuel it will flow and the richer the carb will be.

Okay, let's get down to the tuning aspect of your carb. You'll want to do this each time you replace a part - especially if you put on a "performance" part. (new air filter, air filter setup, pipe, etc.)

Start keeping a log of your tuning. WRITE IT DOWN in your manual, or a notebook or some place that you'll be able to go back and find.
Write down the following stuff:
Main jet size
What position the clip on the needle is in (top groove is #1, bottom groove is #5)
Screw in your air screw until is just quits moving. DO NOT TRY TO TIGHTEN IT, just until it stops and count the number of turns. Do this SLOWLY and pay attention. Keep track in 1/8 increments. Write this number of turns down too. Most of the time this is somewhere between 1-1/2 to 1-3/4 turns
There's also a jet called a Pilot jet, but you have to take the four phillips head screws out of the bottom of the carb and pull off the float bowl to find it. (to remove the float bowl, make sure you use a screwdriver that fits into the heads of the screws snugly - they call them butter bolts because they'll strip just like they were made of butter - pain in the ass). The pilot jet will have a number on it too. Anywhere from 25 to 40, depending on the carb and application.

It is very important that you do this. (write stuff down) It gives you a base line to always go back to if you need to.

You should have a little section in the book now that says something like the following:
September 28, 2002
Main jet - 150
Needle - #3 groove
Pilot Jet - #35 (this is not as important right now, so don't worry about it too much)
Air Screw - 1-3/4 out
Plug - BR8ES

Let's start on the main jet:
The main jet only works on the upper end of the throttle - approximately 3/4ths to wide open.
Take your ride out and get it warmed up.
Run it full throttle, get it going as fast as it will go for a block or two and then hit the kill switch, keep the throttle wide open, put it in neutral and roll to a stop. - still have the throttle wide open.
Pull out the plug.

What does your spark plug look like after a wide open throttle (WFO) run?
What color is the electrode? (the part that has the little tit sticking out of it under the little bar)
Is it black? If so, then it's rich. Drop jet size ONE
Is it white? Then it's lean. Raise jet size ONE
It should be about the color of a pancake or waffle.

For now, change jet sizes in ONE STEP increments. (one size is not 150 to 151, it will jump say to a 152 or 153 - same the other way - prolly a 147 or something near that)
GO BACK AND RECORD YOUR NEW MAIN JET NUMBER

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Now, let's go look at the bottom end of the carb tuning.

Get your ride idling in neutral (warm it up fully first)
Quickly nail the throttle
What does the engine do?

Does it hesitate and then rev up?
As it comes back down to idle, does it seem to hang at a higher idle for a minute and then settle down to normal idle?

If it does this, you're too lean on the air screw adjustment. You need to richen it up a touch. Sorry, I don't know which way to tell you to turn the screw - that depends on the carb. Use the manual.
Or
Does it sound like it bogs a bit?
As it comes back down to idle, does it seem to drop to a low idle (or even die) and then come back to normal?
If it does this, it's too rich. Once again, refer to the manual for adjusting the air screw to lean it out.

ADJUST THE AIR SCREW IN 1/2 TURN INCREMENTS AT FIRST, then fine tune with 1/4 turns.

Repeat the adjustment until it responds without hesitation and drops back to idle without hanging or falling and then coming back up. Expect to do the bottom end adjustment at least three or times before you get it right.
GO WRITE DOWN HOW MANY TURNS OUT YOU ARE NOW!!!!!!

Now that you have a base line setting, try adjusting the air screw a full turn either way and see how the engine reacts. You'll soon see what the air screw does. Since you WROTE DOWN what you found, you'll be able to go right back to that adjustment point.

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Now that we've done that, what was the overall tuning direction of what you did?

Did you end up leaning out the upper end and the bottom end? If so, chances are very good that it's rich in the mid range too. (and vice versa if you were lean everywhere)

If you leaned out on top and richened on bottom (or richened on top and leaned out on bottom), chances are that you won't need to play with the needle's settings.

This is where the needle comes into jetting.

The needle is inside the slide. You have to remove the cap that the throttle cable comes into. It just unscrews, pull it out and a large spring and a slide with the needle will come out.

The needle is removed by pulling the spring out of the slide body. You should be able to see it now. T here might be a retaining clip or washer on top of it. (once again, this depends on the carb - go use that manual!)

Now, this is a point that confuses people a lot (see, a - lot, not alot).

To lean out a needle, you move the needle DOWN by moving the little c-clip UP.
You richen the needle by moving it UP - done by moving the clip DOWN.
You'll hear people talking lowering the needle by raising the clip (leaning) or raising the needle by lowering the clip (richen). You just have to stop and think about what was said.

Get the vehicle rolling, about 1/4 throttle and then feed in the throttle (you want to take about 1-2 seconds feeding in throttle - quickly, but not just snap it open)

What does it do?
Does it come off the bottom end well and then seem like it gets sluggish?
Then you're too rich - drop the needle by raising the clip ONE position.

Does it seem like it wants to pull through, but just doesn't have any go? Then it's lean.
Raise the needle by lowering the clip ONE position.

GO WRITE DOWN WHERE YOUR CLIP IS!!!

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Depending on how out of range your jetting is, you may have to work with the needle, air screw and main jet a couple times to get it right. Don't be discouraged if it doesn't work the first time - learn from it instead.


Back for more, eh?

Here's a great article (that I stole from dhjunkie) on what the parts of the carb are and what they do:

This is from R&D Aerosports page and thought it might help those about what part does what in the carb. (Keep in mind, this was written about a particular carb - the sizes listed are not the only available - see local dealer for more)

What Jet Does What?

The Pilot System: The pilot or idler jet controls the air/fuel mixture mainly from closed to 1/4 throttle. Idler jet comes in sizes 35 to 60 at a 5 unit increments.

The Throttle Valve: The round, flat, or oval cylinder (slide) that rides inside the main carb body is the throttle valve. This part is rarely changed in tuning and the same style is used on all Rotax engines. These valves do come in different cut-away configurations which changes the angle of the diagonally cut surface, but they are expensive to change and hard to find. If you need a leaner mixture you can file down the first taper, which increases the angle of the cut-away. This will lean out the mixture.

The Needle Jet Circuit: This circuit is actually two toning pieces working in conjunction with each other.
The Needle Jet is the cylindrical brass passage located directly above the main jet. This part is available in sizes 268, 270, 272, 274, 276, 278, and 280. The smaller the number, the smaller the diameter of the inner passage and the leaner the condition. The jet needle is the pin that rides inside the throttle valve and out the bottom of this slide into the needle jet passage.
The Jet Needle: This part is available in 6H2, 802, 8G2, 8L2, 15K2, 11G2, 11K2, 15K2, and 15E5U. There may be a lot more available, but it's a well-kept secret, at least in this sport. A general rule of thumb to apply is, needles with a "High Number Code" produce richer mixtures above half-throttle. Example: 8L2 instead of 6L2. Needles with a "High Letter Code" produce richer mixtures below half-throttle. Example: 6P2 instead of 6D2. My recommendation is if you have a mid-range throttle problem, change the needle jet because this part will consistently affect the entire range from 1/4 to 3/4. Or you may want to experiment with your jet needle position.

The Jet Needle Position: This position is determined by which location the holding plate is installed on the jet needle. This position affects the timing of the jet needle versus the throttle side and the needle jet. This relationship requires some thinking. It may require you to read this section several times, but once you understand what's going on, you can make educated changes rather than random experiments.
Moving the holding clip to the top notch (position #1) will delay the timing between the jet needle and needle jet clearance versus the air intake supplied by the opening of the throttle valve. This will produce a leaner 1/4 to 3/4 throttle opening, because there will be more air passing into the engine than fuel allowed. Moving the holding clip to position #4 will accelerate the timing between the jet needle and the jet clearance versus the opening of the throttle valve. This will produce a richer mixture from 1/4 to 3/4-throttle opening. Don't expect miracles! While this change will make a difference, it may not cure your problem.

A common complaint is that an engine will not operate at a given rpm. The engine will either drop or gain rpm without a throttle change. This gap can be as much as 1,000 rpm's and can often occur in the cruise range. Very annoying! A lot of people attach the holding plate position and then, in frustration, go after the needle jet/jet needle circuit. This condition, more often than not, is a result of the tuned exhaust system not wanting to hold that rpm. There is a chance that a mid-range modification may take care of this problem, but in many cases, you are stuck with it.

The Main Jet: This part is easy to understand. It is simply a hole of an exacting size drilled in a hex-sided piece of brass. This passage controls all the fuel leaving the float bowl with the exception of the bypass circuits discussed previously. The main jet is available from 125 to 220 in 5-unit increments, with a few mid-sizes available, such as 146, 158, and 162. The smaller the number, the smaller the opening, and the leaner the condition. This part controls the fuel mixture mainly from 3/4 to full range. The majority of engine seizures and meltdowns occur in this 3/4 to full range. Leaning or richening the main jet will have a small effect on mid-range jetting.

EGT: CAUTION! Most EGT gauges read slow, it is possible to seize an engine with exhaust temperatures as low as 800 degrees. It is advised to start with a rich mixture and only jet down if the exhaust temperatures are low after an extended period of time. We recommend 1050 degrees for climb out and not over 1150 degrees at cruise.

 

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